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Introducing: Off the Record with Katie and Em


This week, Katie and Em pull back the curtain to show you what led them to create the 'Two Sleuths' Podcast.


How did Em become a special agent? In this episode she talks about working in the Pentagon, when the Feds called, and the case that spun her into becoming a crisis negotiator.


Katie will tell you how she went from Entertainment Tonight to reporting on cases that have garnered her coverage on major streaming networks like Paramount+, and some of the world's leading true crime podcasts.


"Off the record" will be a new, short segment at the end of each episode moving forward where the girls let down their hair and talk to you fellow sleuths about what's happening behind the scenes. 



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